we'll see from the polls after the convention whether that combined with michelle obama and president obama's speech is going to produce a bump. it's a polarized electorate. bumps aren't easy. democrats are happy with last night. >> john, very early on in clinton's speech he really tried to own the obama line about you didn't build it. i thought that was actually somewhat surprising really trying to suggest that actually maybe that line he actually meant the first time around. >> well, democrats do mean it in the sense that not in the way in which republicans have been using it against the president, but they do believe -- i mean, it's the whole theory behind hillary clinton's book "it takes the village." we all remember that. it's the idea that collective action is a big part of our individual success, which is something that when we look at, say, a country like iraq where we've been at war, the emphasis on the rebuilding process is on creating institutions and civil society and rule of law and all the things that allow individual enterprise to prosper. that's the point the democrats